Revise with Confidence

Video #3 - Use Simple Tools to Advance Your Skills as a Writer

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  • What have you already done to advance your skills as a writer?
  • What learning experiences have you invested in that were well worth it?
  • When you reflect on all you’ve done in your writing life so far, what makes you most proud or happy or excited?

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24 Comments

  • Mike Wallbridge

    March 31, 2018

    I can understand your suggestion to read widely within the genre but the truth is I haven’t found books that I like within my current genre, Sci Fi thrillers, if such a genre exists. Long before coming to writing (and reading for that matter) I was and still am a movie buff and watch a film almost every day, often something I’ve seen before and keep coming back to. My inspiration comes from what I’ve seen rather than what I’ve read as does my current story. The problem with this is it doesn’t help me when it come to the actual writing. I have no input regarding writing style.

  • Bree LeMaire

    January 12, 2018

    Thank you so much for this freebie. I keep thinking I’m not a good enough writer because I don’t have an MFA and regularly consider going back to school. However, I have been taking classes online and attending conferences regularly. I’m especially interested in the “Grammer Girl” I keep thinking my grammar skills are not up to snuff. as I was smoking in the girls’ room when they taught grammar. Presenting a submission with no typo’s seems formidable.

  • Shirley

    October 17, 2017

    Just finished video 3. I surprised myself when answering the question about what I’d already done to advance my skills as a writer. The answer? Lots! – Creative Writing courses in college; tons of novels read; studied books on writing for the last 30 years; subscribe to how to write/publish blogs; watch YouTubes on writing; google how to; wrote to entertain my family in friends since high school days. Recently, I signed up and finished Joanna Penn’s How to Write a Novel online class. Around the same time, I hired a professional editor who specializes in helping writers with story structure. Between the online class and the editor, I’ve learned more in the last 6 months than I’d learned from all the other forms of study.There’s nothing like personal feedback.
    I only recently began to see that I need to invest time/money in workshops. It would be lovely to meet other writers and establish friendships with soul sisters/brothers of the writing ilk.
    The things I’m most proud of are having had a few things published in magazines. Those were over 20 years ago. Currently, having finished my first full length novel and receiving positive feedback from Beta Readers and my editor.
    Now, to learn about publishing! I love how the learning never ends.
    A note to you: I am dying to read that lovely novel you’ve put on the shelf because people told you it won’t sell. You never know, maybe it’ll be a sleeper and become a classic one day. Thanks for your generosity with these videos!

  • Karin Forno

    June 20, 2017

    Hi again, Joan. I have attended many writer’s conferences but often found they focused on finding agents and getting published which is great but sometimes premature. I have read many books on writing, been part of a poetry writing group, taken undergraduate level writing classes, joined online writing guilds and got an MFA in creative writing through a low residency program. The MFA was the most valuable because I got the most feedback on my writing from professors and really good writers and I wrote a lot. It focused on craft not publishing or marketing although those things were touched on.
    That was 15 years ago though. More recently I have found an online writer’s guild and some online classes I feel are worthwhile because they help me see my work in a new light.
    What I am most proud of is hard to say. I think being a winner at the SF writers’ conference made me proud because I felt a good reader, one of the agents that founded the conference, thought a piece of my memoir was worth reading. I am proud that I finished a first draft of that memoir. Now it needs very serious revision. I alternate between being eager to work on it and feeling terrified of tackling it. The memoir does touch on painful areas of my life so that is hard as well. But I believe it deserves to be a finished work.

    • jdempsey

      June 21, 2017

      Hi Karin,

      Good to see you in the course, too! 🙂

      You’ve got such a solid foundation on which to build, so I hope you’re enjoying dusting off those skills these days. And to have had a smart reader recognize your work on the memoir in that way is indeed an important recognition of work well done. Hang onto that thought as you continue on with your project!

      See you back in the course, Karin.

  • Carlos Sandoval

    April 18, 2017

    When you mentioned the case of george Saunders, on finding his own voice and feeling comfortable with the way he writes, that was a huge inspiration. Of course, the way you persevere with your own writing process and you achievements, was also inspiring. Cheers!

    • jdempsey

      April 19, 2017

      Thanks very much, Carlos! So glad to inspire! 🙂

  • Karen C

    March 5, 2017

    I’ve taken several online courses for writing. I’ve gotten a Creative Writing Certificate from Kennesaw State University here in GA. It is not a professional certificate. However, I’m two courses away from completed their Advanced Creative Writing certificate. I am a member of the Georgia Writer’s Association attend their monthly workshops where there is a chance to learn a variety of skills from published authors. I just joined a critique group that meets monthly but don’t have enough time with them to evaluate if it will be a helpful group.

    I have also gone to a few conferences and agree with you that they are well worth the expense. I was reluctant to attend one that was a week long, thinking I didn’t deserve to go unless I had been making a consistent effort with writing and not just thinking about it. But I went and I’m glad I did. It was so helpful to meet people from genres other than my own and be inspired by their stories.
    I do like your comment that conferences and learning opportunities are a must and we deserve them. Thanks!

    • jdempsey

      March 6, 2017

      Great accounting of all you’ve done, Karen! Terrific opportunities around you, it seems, which is wonderful! Keep on attending and learning … 🙂

  • Pierre Desilets

    February 6, 2017

    Comments:
    1. What have I already done to advance my skills? When in college (1970) I took a creative writing course focused on poetry, submitted to a publication called “GOB”, had several poems accepted, eventually served as an editor on that publication. Had works accepted by the Literary magazine in both HS and college. Took courses from Writers Digest University (Fiction Writing, Novel Writing). I’ve read probably 50-60 books on writing (my favorites were by Larry Brooks (Story Engineering, Story Physics, Story Fix) although I also enjoyed “Writing the Bones”. I have read hundreds, probably thousands, of books of all kinds: classics, novels, poetry, biographies, scifi, mysteries, romances, literary, thrillers, westerns, horror. Favorite authors have been Chrichton, Michener, Koontz, Orson Scott Card, A. Merritt and dozens of classical authors. I have “studied” some of them for pacing, character studies, plot lines.
    2. What makes me most proud? I truly enjoy writing for the sheer pleasure of seeing something that seems worthwhile emerge. I enjoyed reading my poetry in public years ago and on a radio for an hour or so. I have enjoyed self-publishing (poetry, short stories, non-fiction and essayish) although I have not followed through with public readings or an internet presence to promote these. I’ve enjoyed NaNoWriMo novel-writing for the last two years (The Smell of Truth, Shattered) and writing novels the two years prior to learning about NaNoWriMo (Colors, Hardstone). I submitted Colors to one publisher and received my one and only rejection and I had an ex-editor from a big publisher, my daughter in law, read Hardstone and although she did make some grammatical corrections, she admitted that the character did not engage her (and I can see that in retrospect).
    3. Questions/struggles: I find that can write moving moments that elicit empathy and can develop what seems to me complex characters (often too many lately), but have difficulty developing dark antagonists and action scenes. I don’t do badly with dialogue and I can create or envision a strong and dramatic premise that is capable of supporting the plot of a full-length novel. I can write 50K words of a novel in a month within a four-part architecture, but when I write at that pace, I do not spend time on pacing, engaging the reader, character arcs etc. In my current work, I know what has to happen theoretically, but have not attacked it in a sufficiently concrete way to see if it actually works. I don’t mind investing the time to go back and rework it, and I find that each day I get new insights as to how the theme is weaving throughout the story plot. I watch the patience my wife has when she works on a quilt or on a knitting or crocheting piece, sometimes tearing out a completely finished work because she finds a section that was not done properly, and reworking it, and it encourages me to apply the same diligence and careful technique to my writing. I would like to edit the drafts of these 2-4 novels and submit them to traditional publishers to be published and I don’t mind spending the time to do it well. At this point, even I can see major flaws to work on. When that is no longer the case, then I may consider seeking professional help to further polish each story. I appreciate these three videos and I thank you for making them available.

    • jdempsey

      February 6, 2017

      So great to hear all of this, Pierre! You’ve done so much to advance your writing–what fun! I love that you look to your wife’s patience with her own craft, and you’re absolutely right that what she does is what writers need to do as well. Rip it all out and begin again when need be, or maybe tear out only a portion and clean it up.

      I wish you the best as you work to clean up your novels, Pierre. Thanks for spending some time with me in these videos!

  • DeAnna

    February 5, 2017

    Thank you for sharing these three video’s.

    what i have done to advance my skills….. I google a lot. I have read a few books.
    What learning experience have you invested in. Just a few books on how to.
    When you reflect on all you have done. what makes you most proud, happy or excited……My biggest enjoyment. Is getting the first draft done and even how fast I wrote it. I got excited on how much I enjoyed it. Even with all the mistakes I made. There was things in the story, I didn’t even remember writing. The first person I let read my draft. Was my aunt. She read about six chapters and said she couldn’t wait to read the book. This was a women that could read a story in two days. She enjoyed reading so much. I was excited that she wanted to read my book and that she was interested. Knowing that someone who read all the time, enjoyed the beginning of my story. Made me feel good. My sister-law also reads all the time. She to started reading my story. I would send her a chapter at a time and she would ask me question on what was going to happen next and then tell me. don’t tell me… that would make me feel good knowing I was keeping her on her toes. She would tell me, how much she disliked someone. Things that I wanted in my story. Was working for me, but still with all the good news. You still have that feeling its not so good. My Aunt has past and I still have not finished the book, but i do know when I do. I will set and read it out loud so she can hear the end or maybe i will read her the end. Like she did all the time. Then read her the story.

    • jdempsey

      February 6, 2017

      Thanks for taking the time to watch them, DeAnna! I appreciate that!

      I love the idea that you will read out loud so that your Aunt, wherever she might be, can hear what you’ve written! So sweet! Keep on enjoying your work!

  • Vickie Owens

    February 4, 2017

    Your videos were excellent! I look forward to hearing more from you.

    Vickie Owens

  • Judy

    January 26, 2017

    Thank you for your videos. Excellent online teaching programs are located on Ed2Go. I took seven of these courses in the process of learning how to write. My lack of confidence appears when I a trying to decide to submit my writing. Every time I get to the submit button I change my mind and stop. I do not know if it is about rejection as much as comparing myself to what has been published and I come up lacking. I have self-published six books through Amazon and have sales at a local level. I have converted several to e-books on Kobo – lets leave it at that. No sales can be discouraging.
    I will keep on writing because it is as necessary as my heart beating, keep trying to learn , andlove what I do. thank you once again.

    • jdempsey

      January 26, 2017

      Thanks for letting me know about Ed2Go! Looks like they’ve got some great courses! You must have learned a lot if you took seven of them, eh?!

      That you love writing counts for SO much, and still it’s discouraging to not quite dare (yet!) to take that step to submit. Do you have people reading your work and providing feedback? Did you get that in the courses you took? That’s one really great way to get better, and to reach the point where you feel like you can dare to submit. Your readers can steer you towards fixing what needs fixing and then maybe you wouldn’t hesitate.

      I’ll tell you what–once you start submitting you end up quickly getting to the point where you submit like crazy because you get so used to rejection … it’s in part a numbers game, and when you get to that point, you won’t care! 🙂 And then, when you’re submitting like crazy and no longer caring, you’ll find someone who wants your story!

  • Betty Snow

    September 13, 2016

    Thank you, Joan, for sharing your knowledge in such a generous way. It warms my heart to see writers helping writers.
    As a writer uncertain of my abilities, I fear i have overdosed on “how-to” books. I seem to be paralyzed. I am such a self critic that I never finish anything. I believe I have done a good job of taking advantage of workshops, classes, etc., because i live in Spartanburg, SC, a true literary town. Throughout the year Hub City Publications brings in authors for readings at the indie book store Hub City Book Shop; Hub City sponsors writing classes at the Spartanburg Library throughout the year; and Hub City puts on Writing in Place, a writing conference held at Wofford College in Spartanburg every summer. I participate in as many as I can, and I always learn from them. Such a wealth of opportunity for writers doesn’t exist in most hometowns. I am so proud of my city! Yet, I wonder if I’ve created a monster, a perpetual student who busies herself with classes, workshops, critique groups, books on how it’s done, and the like, but who never gets around to writing anything, and if she does start something, never finishes it because she’s stumped on the plot or the writing just seems so amateurish that she tears it up in disgust and embarrassment. Having a few short stories published added to the mix, since that was years ago, and nothing’s been accepted since. Maybe I’m self sabotaging. If I don’t finish, I can’t submit. If I don’t submit, I don’t get rejected.
    Thanks again for your wise words. You have given me much to think about.
    Betty Snow

    • jdempsey

      September 14, 2016

      Thank you, Betty, for sharing your story. Isn’t it wonderful to live in a literary environment? I do, too, and I can’t imagine not having it around me; such a gift. I love to learn, too, so I understand how you can get hooked on that and not take the time to apply what you’re learning to the page itself. That’s one of the dangers. But it seems you’ve already recognized that you might be self-handicapping, and with that understanding I hope will come the desire to stop doing that. Get back to writing, and enjoy the process of revision. So much great learning takes place in that process; you’ll enjoy it!

  • Lynn Jericho

    September 8, 2016

    Let me add after reflecting. I am confident as a disciplined creator, fairly confident as a disciplined teacher, even confident as a disciplined writer. But I lack confidence in revising and completing a book. If you can name it you can change it! Thank you, Joan, for leading me to naming and revising myself as a writer.

    • jdempsey

      September 11, 2016

      Thanks, Lynn, for sharing your story of blogging, and how you’ve come to realize your lack of confidence when approaching a book. This is not uncommon, of course, since whenever we head into unfamiliar territory we understand how very much we don’t yet know, and that can feel daunting. The good news for you is that you have years of content and writing experience to draw on, which means you have a leg up; no facing the blank page! And yes, “if you name it you can change it.” Glad you’ve named and are facing the exciting challenge of tackling a book project! Congratulations.

  • Lynn Jericho

    September 8, 2016

    The confidence building of no time for editing and revision is also worth attempting.

    In 2004, I started writing a “spiritual” blog during the 12 Holy Nights between December 25 and January 6…Christmas and Epiphany in the Christian view. I wrote each message in the mood of each day in the moment. I just had to trust the inspiration. In spite of the occasional typos, it’s worked and I have a loyal worldwide audience who have followed me for years. This is creative nonfiction. However…the forgiving good enough, no time for revision success had made me reluctant to do the hard work of producing a book.

    I recommend the show-up and deliver confidence I have developed over 13 years of success. But I know to produce my books I need a different confidence…the confidence of revision.

    Joan, these videos have been very grounding. Thank you.

  • Marilyn Bader

    September 7, 2016

    Joan, your video series finally made me look at and recognize how I’ve allowed self-handicapping to sabotage my writing efforts. No more! I am moving forward with confidence, making the pure joy of words and the writing process my stock in trade. Thank you for your teaching and the many clues to resources.

    • jdempsey

      September 7, 2016

      So glad to hear this, Marilyn! Thanks for letting me know. “No more!” Yay!!

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